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Seeking advice on purchasing espresso machine
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| satimis |
Posted on 06/24/2012 07:34
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Hi all,
I'm looking for a Semi-Automatic Espresso machine and a coffee grinder for home use. I found following products from Krups:-
Krups
Electronic Pump Espresso Maker XP5280
Krups XP5280 Espresso Machine
http://espresso-m...ups-XP5280
Krups XP5280 Precise Tamp Programmable Espresso Machine
http://www.seattl...so-machine
Espresso XP5280
http://www.krups....XP5280.htm
Krups Coffee Grinder GVX2
http://www.krups....2/GVX2.htm
Could any folk on the forum shed me some light?
I have no preset budget dependable on feature and quality. Comment and suggestion would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
B.R.
satimis
Edit to make links clickable
Edited by John Despres on 06/24/2012 08:08
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| John Despres |
Posted on 06/24/2012 08:14
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Hi, Satimis. Welcom to HRO!
I'm not a fan of Krups anything. If you're looking to keep the costs somewhat low, I'd suggest Breville for your espresso
The grinder is the most critical part of your set-up. Youe can pull a pretty decent shot from just about anything with a very good grinder sitting next to it. Start here:
http://www.wholel...KgodmDli1Q
Good luck!
Have fun.
John
Respect the bean.
John Despres
Fresh Roast 8, Gene Cafe, JYTT 1k, Quest M3, Mazzer Mini, Technivorm, various size presses and many more brewers.
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| satimis |
Posted on 06/24/2012 08:53
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Hi John,
Thanks for your advice.
I'm looking for quality product.
I have a Saeco Via Veneto Cappuccino Combi
Photo: http://ubuntuone.com/0l9LwyIxAVrPxTGlobvgz4
which have been running for more than 10 years without problem until now. It is the time for me investing a new expresso machine.
Initially I have an idea purchasing a full automatic expresso machine. After having received some advice that the maintenence cost is very expensive then I turn my searching back to semi automatic expresso machine.
I can't find Baratza burr grinder nor its products here.
Coffee machines and accessories available here are:-
Philips Saeco
Delonghi
Krups
Breville
Kenwood
etc.
I prefer having a burr grinder. Any suggestion on other makers?
Any suggestion on the espresso machine made by Delonghi? Thanks
B.R.
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| jkoll42 |
Posted on 06/24/2012 09:09
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What is your total budget and what country are you in?
Honey badger 1k, Bunn LPG-2E, Technivorm, Cimbali Max Hybrid, Vibiemme Double Domo V3
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| satimis |
Posted on 06/24/2012 09:33
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Hi jkoll42,
I'm in Hong Kong.
I don't have a preset budget. If not taking consideration on cost of maintenence I prefer to have a full automatic expresso machine.
I suppose the total cost of a semi automatic exrpesso machine plus that of a burr grinder will be lower than a full automatic machine.
I just found "Saeco GT-1 Titan Conical Burr Grinder" on Internet.
http://www.kitche...VEB99.html
It looks bulky in design. I prefer the design of Baratza Vario Grinder
B.R.
satimis
Edited by satimis on 06/24/2012 09:38
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| ciel-007 |
Posted on 06/24/2012 09:45
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I have a Baratza Vario sitting next to my Mazzer Mini E. I must admit that the Vario is a pretty impressive grinder for the money. Have you tried contacting BellaBarista to see if they might ship to HK?
http://www.bellab...rioGrinder
Ciel... seeking Heaven in a cup with......................................................... EXPOBAR Brewtus II - MAZZER Mini E - MAHLKÖNIG/Baratza Vario - GENE CAFE - HOTTOP KN8828P2 - HotTop KN8828B2
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| ginny |
Posted on 06/24/2012 10:19
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forget Krups they are junk.
if you are serious about an espresso machine let us know what is available to you where you live.
i have a Mazzer mini and love it but there are other grinders that are great as well.
will you use this for home use?
-ginny
Ala di Vittoria La Valentina,
Solis 5K, Aero Press, Mazzer Mini, Hot Top 8828 B 2K,
Quest 3, TC4C set up to use...
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| Dan |
Posted on 06/24/2012 10:36
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One of the most popular mid-priced setups that will produce very good espresso is the Rancillio Silvia espresso machine and their Rancillio Rocky grinder. |
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| tamarian |
Posted on 06/24/2012 10:47
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If you don't mind a hand grinder, you can get the OE Pharos, the ultimate budget grinder. $250. |
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| Koffee Kosmo |
Posted on 06/24/2012 17:16
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I am not sure how much experience you have with coffee and coffee machines
The machines you have noted in your posts are classed as appliances
To make a recommendation we all need to know your
1] priorities and
2] experience with any past machines/equipment
3] The style of coffee you prefer
4] How many cups are you likely to make in one go
5] Is steaming milk important
Answer these questions and make a list of any Prosumer machines available in Hong Kong
KK
My web site > koffeekosmo.com.au I home roast and I like it :P
Blog - http://koffeekosm...gspot.com/
Bezzera BZ40:Bezzera Strega: BNZ MD74 Grinder: 6 Box hand grinders: Pullman Tamper Convex: (KKTO) Turbo Oven Home Roaster: CONA Glass Rod Syphon: Pyrex Brewer: |
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| jkoll42 |
Posted on 06/24/2012 18:19
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BR - I think everyone here would try to keep you away form a super auto. Overall it's a compromise.
We recently had a member from Pakistan that had a rocky with bad results who switched to a La Spaziale Top grinder and had great results. You may want to contact a espresso supply company and see what they can get for you. If you are limited to the list you gave, the Breville is the best of the worst. The new Breville Double Boiler seems at least decent (although reliability for the brand is low)
Honey badger 1k, Bunn LPG-2E, Technivorm, Cimbali Max Hybrid, Vibiemme Double Domo V3
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| satimis |
Posted on 06/24/2012 20:25
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Hi all,
Thanks for your suggestion.
I only consume 2 or 3 cups cuppuchino daily.
Following coffee equipment are full of the market here, Hong Kong;
Philips Saeco
Delonghi
Krups
Breville
Kenwood
etc.
It is easy for me to get them. I'm reludant to purchase coffee equipment if they don't have an agent here, caring maintenence service.
It won't be easy for me to find Baratza product here. Pls see;
Help with Getting Baratza Vario in Hong Kong
http://coffeegeek...ers/533362
Help for getting Baratza Vario in Hong Kong
http://www.home-b...17958.html
I found a coffee specialty shop here;
Coffee Machine
http://www.coffee...ine_en.htm
Grinder
http://www.coffee...der_en.htm
I'm considering;
Solis Grinder 167plus (burr grinder)
Solis Maestro Grinder Detailed Review
http://www.coffee...lismaestro
It is compact, not occupying much space. The later is very expensive here. I have been looking at "Rancilio Rocky". But it is for commercial use.
I don't find my ideal coffee machine there, a semi automatic expresso machine. Comment and suggestion are welcome. TIA
B.R.
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| Koffee Kosmo |
Posted on 06/24/2012 21:13
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If you want a fully auto
I would contact the Pacific Coffee Company http://www.pacifi...index.html
They have the Jura Brand
Good enough for home and commercial applications
Hope that helps
KK
My web site > koffeekosmo.com.au I home roast and I like it :P
Blog - http://koffeekosm...gspot.com/
Bezzera BZ40:Bezzera Strega: BNZ MD74 Grinder: 6 Box hand grinders: Pullman Tamper Convex: (KKTO) Turbo Oven Home Roaster: CONA Glass Rod Syphon: Pyrex Brewer: |
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| satimis |
Posted on 06/24/2012 21:45
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Hi KK,
Thanks for your advice and thread.
I contacted them before;
http://www.pacifi...a_line.htm
This chain coffee shop is the agent of Jura, Switzerland. I also contacted their head office.
Later I changed my target on semi automatic expresso machine because of high cost of maintence.
B.R.
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| Koffee Kosmo |
Posted on 06/25/2012 03:46
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Have you considered a lever machine
As in a manual cylinder type machine
Not much servicing to speak of, and wonderful coffee for many years
KK
My web site > koffeekosmo.com.au I home roast and I like it :P
Blog - http://koffeekosm...gspot.com/
Bezzera BZ40:Bezzera Strega: BNZ MD74 Grinder: 6 Box hand grinders: Pullman Tamper Convex: (KKTO) Turbo Oven Home Roaster: CONA Glass Rod Syphon: Pyrex Brewer: |
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| satimis |
Posted on 06/25/2012 04:25
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Koffee Kosmo wrote:
Have you considered a lever machine
As in a manual cylinder type machine
Not much servicing to speak of, and wonderful coffee for many years
KK
Hi KK,
whether you referred to manual machine?
such as:-
"Espresso Machine Buying Guide - Choosing a Manual Machine
http://coffeegeek...almachines
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Home » Lever Coffee Machines
http://www.coffee...php?cat=63
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No, I never tried them before.
They look like a toy, nice for decoration - "Elektra Micro Casa a Leva Spring Piston Lever". I wonder whether I can find it here? I would like purchasing a set in addition.
Elektra S1 Micro a Leva Lever Copper & Brass 2012 Ed.
http://www.coffee...amp;cat=63
It is NOT cheap.
Thanks
B.R.
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| Koffee Kosmo |
Posted on 06/25/2012 04:51
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They are not toys
I personally own a Bezzera Strega and very happy to own one as the coffee is sublime
As mentioned on a reply post
Search out the new Breville 900 dual boiler machine as the best match for your needs
KK
My web site > koffeekosmo.com.au I home roast and I like it :P
Blog - http://koffeekosm...gspot.com/
Bezzera BZ40:Bezzera Strega: BNZ MD74 Grinder: 6 Box hand grinders: Pullman Tamper Convex: (KKTO) Turbo Oven Home Roaster: CONA Glass Rod Syphon: Pyrex Brewer: |
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| satimis |
Posted on 06/25/2012 05:29
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Koffee Kosmo wrote:
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As mentioned on a reply post
Search out the new Breville 900 dual boiler machine as the best match for your needs
Hi KK,
I found it here;
The BREVILLE BES900 Dual Boiler Coffe Maker
http://www.youtub...OtLQ7jU2tU
the Dual Boiler - Videos, Reviews, Specs and more...
http://www.brevil...dualboiler
the Dual Boiler - Breville
http://www.brevil...resso.html
Although it is NOT nice looking, it is quite economical in price. I'll search the relevant reviews and commentary later.
Thanks
B.R.
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| Dan |
Posted on 06/25/2012 05:45
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There's a review of the double-boiler PID Breville on CoffeeGeek.com |
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| jkoll42 |
Posted on 06/25/2012 05:58
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satimis wrote:
It is compact, not occupying much space. The later is very expensive here. I have been looking at "Rancilio Rocky". But it is for commercial use.
B.R.
satimis
Most people would not really consider the Rocky a commercial grinder. Many people who are into espresso have true commercial grinders in their homes because the grinder is more important than the espresso machine.
Can you get anything from Mazzer? Those Solis grinders are unlikely to get you the results you want.
Jon
Honey badger 1k, Bunn LPG-2E, Technivorm, Cimbali Max Hybrid, Vibiemme Double Domo V3
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